Song Slip Misbehavior?

[franks]

It seems that I don't have the right sequence of steps to prevent song slip when selecting a different song.

Example: Sometimes I jump to a different song out of sequence in a playlist, and when the song starts, the music is out of synch with the lyrics.

The Menu Control is set to "No global slip" & "No Song slip", and when I check the slipped song immediately after detecting slip, the Controls still indicate "No Slip".

This really is frustrating to the singer( and me), and I can't seem to fix it quickly without restarting kJams.

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I must be missing a step in the selection process.

Thanks in advance.

[franks]

I tried to send a copy of kjams preference panel.. I don;t think I succeeded.

[dave]

you can't reference a picture that's on your computer, it has to be on a server on the internet, or you can "upload attachment".

but there aren't any prefs settings that govern song slip.

the point is that songs should not be out of sync, ever, anyway. are you talking about specific songs that repeatably are out of sync? if so, then it is the song file itself. or can the same song sometimes be off and sometimes be spot-on? if that is the case, then there is a bug with kJams.

can you reproduce the problem 100% of the time at will? if so, then i'll want you to show me so i can fix it.
Please message me in my chat room on tuesday evening after 7pm pacific time and i'll have a look.

http://karaoke.kjams.com/wiki/IChat

[franks]

Dave,

It could be any song randomly selected from any playlist or library.

Sometimes I can go thru a whole performance without any problem.

Once it happens, the slip seems to happen on almost every song thereafter.

No I cannot reproduce the slip at will.

But once a song slips and I shut the computer down, then after restart it plays OK.

Also I notice that after the song finishes, the "Stop" button is still enabled indicating that the song is still playing.

A clue perhaps, is if I step sequentially down the playlist to the song I want, and hit "Stop" button(because it shows to be enabled) before I click "Play" or "double click" song, then the song may(but not guaranteed) restart without any slip.

Here are couple of more strange things that happen that may be part of the problem:

After a song finishes, when I select another song out of sequence and click "Play", the song that starts is not the one that I highlighted and double-clicked but is the next sequential song in the playlist. Again the "Stop" button shows to be enabled. This happens whether the video window is in foreground or not. Note, I generally display the menu video rather than the embedded video option in kJams Pro(need larger size).

Also, If I open a DIFFERENT playlist and select a song and "Play", the song that starts is the next sequential song in the PREVIOUS playlist.

Dave, I cannot arrange a chat session because I'll be out of state on vacation(leaving Tues AM) for ten days and am traveling light without my laptop, but I will access the forum to stay up to date.

[dave]

Once it happens, the slip seems to happen on almost every song thereafter.

this would indicate perhaps global slipping has accidentally been set?

once .. I .. restart it plays OK

this would indicate that it's ... ummm ... not global slipping.

I notice that after the song finishes, the "Stop" button is still enabled indicating that the song is still playing.

yes songs never stop playing unless you have actually pressed stop or set the pref "stop after each track" (different than "pause after each track). so the audio track may go silent but it's still playing. even a "paused" song is still in play mode, it's just that the play head is not moving.

if I step sequentially down the playlist to the song I want

using the down arrow key? or the right arrow key? makes a BIG difference.

(then) hit "Stop" button .. before I click "Play"

that is the correct way to do it

or "double click"

that is the other correct way to do it

After a song finishes, when I select another song out of sequence and click "Play"

that is not how it works. when you are "Playing" (including pause), then you are not playing a song, you are playing a Playlist. you can not just select another song then press the play button, because you haven't interrupted the current playlist. the only way to interrupt the current playlist is to hit the stop button first, or to just double click on the new song.

but is the next sequential song in the playlist

this is by design.

Also, If I open a DIFFERENT playlist and select a song and "Play", the song that starts is the next sequential song in the PREVIOUS playlist.

same design. use double click to get the effect you want.

I am not able to reproduce the song sync problem, if you have any more clues i will investigate more.

[Karanight]

Also, If I open a DIFFERENT playlist and select a song and "Play", the song that starts is the next sequential song in the PREVIOUS playlist.

Just a quick note on this. When I do this I find the best way and the fastest way is to have the track (in the playlist 2) highlighted, then when the previous track (in playlist 1) has come to the end, hit cmd . then the space bar
That stops the previous track from playing and starts the highlighted one.
If you do this though the track you stopped will still be in playlist 1 and will not have been transferred to the history list so you might want to select Pause track in prefs and then before you follow the cmd . space bar sequence hit the right arrow key. That will finish the track and put the next track in playlist 1 in pause mode ready for the cmd . space bar sequence

Doing this gets the track you want playing with no music break to speak of

[dave]

or you can press right arrow, esc, space. that will do everything you want.

[Karanight]

or you can press right arrow, esc, space. that will do everything you want.

hmmm There was a reason I didn't like doing that but I can't for the life of me remember why now

[franks]

Thanks all..

Got a better understanding of how kJams is implemented.

Will use suggestions to reset my brain.

[dave]