Karaoke and mp3 in the same playlist?

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Karaoke and mp3 in the same playlist?

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I've been hunting high and low for something like this.
I'm a professional singer/guitarist and currently use an ipod for my backing tracks via an iDj console. I have a laptop using OSX Tiger as a back up and because many of my mp3 tracks were originally on CDG I wondered if it is possible to have mp3 and CDG tracks in the same playlist.
I would like to move seamlessly from one to the other (ideally without a 10 sec lead-in). I have a large catalogue which would be increased significantly if I could use the Powerbook to give me Karaoke lyrics on the tracks I am less familiar with. This would be particulaly useful for requests. I would then keep the iPod for emergency back-up use only.
I hope I've made myself clear. Everyone tells me I should go over to the dark side (Windows) - I would rather retire
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Post by ChurchCat »

Yes you can use both formats (and many more) in the same playlist. This app. is great for what you want. I use it in the studio to teach singing and I have backings in a variety of formats and I just mix and match.

The nice feature of kJams is the auto pause. This allows you to wait for the clapping to stop before starting the next track.

The ten second lead in is a bit of a pain for what you an I want. There is a "jump to the first bit of music" button that allows you to leap over the intro silence but this does require one extra button press.

The best that I can suggest as a work-around to get rid of the lead-in is to edit the tracks that you are going to use live. You could use Garageband for this and import the new track as a trimmed version.

Maybe Dave could include "Always start at the music" as a preferences option in an update?

hint hint nudge nudge

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That sounds absolutely brilliant. Can I edit a karaoke track to lose the lead in? Also, which version would you suggest I buy as it's unlikely that I will ever do Karaoke nights (although you never know if times get hard!)?
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ocheye wrote:That sounds absolutely brilliant. Can I edit a karaoke track to lose the lead in? Also, which version would you suggest I buy as it's unlikely that I will ever do Karaoke nights (although you never know if times get hard!)?
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You can edit the track of course. However you would lose the graphics if you were to do it in Garageband. For me it is not an issue but there are those who want the words on screen so that they can take a "crafty peek" whilst performing.

I will be interested to hear what Dave says about having "skip lead in" as a preferences option. As I said kJams can already do this manually. kJams is the best karaoke package on the Mac at the moment. However it has great appeal to soloists too. Soloists have different requirements to KJ's but I know of no better package for them.

I suspect that you will not need the pro version. I have bought it as I wanted each of my students to have their own playlists. You can upgrade later if the basic version does not do all that you want.

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p.s. The features I like are

Auto pause at end of song.
Plays Midi files
Can change pitch and tempo of songs.
Can keep sets of songs in playlists.
Can burn a CD from a midi file.
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ChurchCat wrote:
I will be interested to hear what Dave says about having "skip lead in" as a preferences option. As I said kJams can already do this manually. kJams is the best karaoke package on the Mac at the moment. However it has great appeal to soloists too. Soloists have different requirements to KJ's but I know of no better package for them.



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I notice that Dave has been by and commented on loads and loads of threads. He might have missed this one though.

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Well i thought i already got that feature in there:

Preferences->General->Auto Cue

right now it's indented under "pause between tracks" so maybe you need that first, but seems like that should not be necessary.

if it doesn't work let me know and i'll fix it!!!

i recommend against editing your karaoke tracks, you won't be able to keep the graphics in sync unless you use a dedicated CDG editing program, of which i know there are none except for kJams Producer which is a secret. Oops.

The Lite version does just about everything, the pro version adds Venues, Singers, Rotation, 2nd video screen, Scripting and full QuickTime export.

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dave wrote:Well i thought i already got that feature in there:

Preferences->General->Auto Cue
:oops:

How did I miss that. :shock:

Yup. No need to edit. The gaps are taken care of.

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Managed to spend a bit of time on this over Christmas and have been experimenting again with CD+G. Still having some issues. The main problem is NOT the lead in silence but in fact the fade out silence. Autopause waits for this to finish before moving to next track and pausing just before the track starts. The latter is great but the former is a pain. Is there a simple way for me to shorten the track to get rid of the silence at the end? Or for that matter is there a keystroke that will enable me to jump from the previous track as soon as the sound finishes to the autocue point of the next track rather than the start of the track with up to 10 seconds lead in?
Another issue is that of volume.
Even with the laptop volume(powerbook) up to full and the KJ volume likewise it is still much less than the iTunes volume, I'm not sure if the eq is affected but it doesn't sound as clear as with iTunes although I suspect this is down to lack of volume. Could this be a feature of the free trial version?

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Is there a keystroke that will enable me to jump from the previous track as soon as the sound finishes to the autocue point of the next track?
the right arrow is supposed to do that, sorry that's a bug. i'll fix that ASAP!
Even with the laptop volume(powerbook) up to full and the KJ volume likewise it is still much less than the iTunes volume
I suspect you have the EQ turned on in iTunes and you've raised the pre-amp? Or do you have some other Audio Amp plugin for iTunes? I've never heard anyone reporting this before, so I suspect that your system is different. kJams plays audio according to the rules, i certainly don't make it quieter than "normal".

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Post by ocheye »

Thanks for that Dave. I'm sure you're right and it is the preamp in itunes. Have you any plans for one? I'll just adjust itunes and my pa accordingly.

On the other point, the right arrow takes me direct to zero seconds on the subsequent track as opposed to the start of play.
Thanks for your help. You're a star!

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Have you any plans for one?
of course :)
the right arrow takes me direct to zero seconds on the subsequent track
Like i said: that's a bug if you've got "pause between tracks" and "auto cue" turned on.

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